What Went Down in Eden…?

There have been certain Scriptures, throughout my years of Bible reading, that have troubled me. Often, I had to – and sometimes still do – shy away from them. There is enough uncertainty & inherent threat in life, without that which is supposed to comfort & illuminate me, adding to it! Until I can get a better understanding of these Words, I have to ‘walk away’. I do not disbelieve them. I just can’t handle them. In fact, in Peter’s 2nd. epistle we are specifically warned about those Scriptures ‘hard to be understood’. If you have yet to become ‘learned’ in these things, they can destroy you.

There were other Scriptures that did not trouble me, but yet…I sensed truth not revealed. I couldn’t put my finger on it. And most of the time, I don’t think I was even cognizant of the fact that I even perceived this. I just kept on reading…


I think the reason for these ‘gaps’ might be found in Jesus’ statement to his disciples, that there was much more He had to tell them, but they could not bear it yet. There is a place in our spiritual awareness & growth where we, too, cannot bear knowing certain things. Just as you would refrain from exposing your children to certain kinds of topics, so God does with us.

Until we are ready.

When that time comes, the Lord will bring that information to you, and lead you by His Spirit down paths of increase in learning. In some cases, the information might not ‘go down easy’, even then. You may need to use wisdom in managing your intake. But as you become acclimated to a greater fullness of truth, the pieces of the puzzle fall into place. It is at once awful & glorious. It occurs to me that such instruction could be compared to Peter’s counsel concerning discipline, that in the moment it takes place, it is ‘not pleasant but grievous’ – yet afterwards it yields the ‘peaceable fruit of righteousness.’

And I must say here, that I am truly enjoying these times of ‘peaceable righteousness’!


A riveting Scripture which has always caught my attention is the beginning of John 8:44. Speaking to certain Jews (who sought to kill Him, v.40), Jesus said point-blank, “Ye are of your father the devil…”, adding, “…and the lusts of your father ye will do.” Jesus was speaking to physical beings, as far as we can tell – sooooo….how could Jesus say their ‘father’ was a fallen angel/devil? The Hebrew word used here is a primary noun meaning ‘father’, and can include ‘parent’. Now, it would be one thing if at some point a physical, human being became influenced or possessed by another entity or spirit, but I don’t think that would qualify such entity/spirit as a ‘father’.

Hmmm…what are we talking about here?

On sJesus & Phariseesome level, I always felt that Jesus’ words were literal. These persons were of the bloodline, or lineage of Satan. I didn’t understand that, but in my gut…it resonated.

How did such a condition come into being, though? I didn’t know. The obvious answer seemed preposterous, so I left it alone.


Today, the obvious answer no longer seems so preposterous to me.


These same Jews protested, We be Abraham’s seed! Abraham is our father! (v.33, 39) We have one Father, even God! (v.41)

Jesus saw it differently.

“…ye seek to kill me, a man that has told you the truth…this did not Abraham.” (v.40) (Meaning, you are NOT of Abraham…)

“If God were your Father, ye would love Me.” (v.42)

…let me clarify here, with more of our opening verse (John 8:44): “…and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning…”

So we have these certain Jews, who sought to kill & did not love, claiming faith-filled, Godly lineage, a bloodline descending from Adam, a “son of God” (Luke 3:38) In fact, they are not who they claim to be. Or appear to be. They are rather, according to Jesus, descended from Satan. I submit that it is possible they, or some of them, did not realize that. But they somehow entered the timeline of human history through a procreation process that hearkens back to Satan, and includes flesh & blood.


…at this point, one’s thoughts might turn to the Garden of Eden, where we know the Scriptures tell us about an interaction between a serpent and a woman named Eve. The conditions of a satanic being and flesh & blood are met here in this environment. It may never have occurred to you before, that perhaps what actually transpired in this Garden was an illicit sexual act; if so, you may be revolted by the thought. It is awful. It is sickening. When this concept was first presented to me, decades ago, I was probably being guarded in heart & mind by God, because I was able to stomach it. But I wasn’t sure if I believed it.

Over the ensuing years, the idea faded into the background. But recently, it has re-surfaced. Seen in light of the globalist world that has been developing, and its accompanying movements & entities now pushing to a culmination point, I now find this explanation of the Fall palatable & clarifying. The pieces fall into place. For me, they SO fall into place!


Here I want to construct a chronological sequence of events, that hopefully will illustrate the basic process of corruption that has transpired since ancient times –

  • In the glorious & hallowed Halls of Heaven, Lucifer, God’s most beautiful creation, rebelled against Him.

a. Satan (Lucifer?), and those who followed him, were cast out of heaven.

b. It is considered that this catastrophic event occurred in the space of time    between Genesis chapter 1, verse 1 & verse 2. The violent power released here might explain v.2: “…the earth was void, and without form.”

c. At this point, it might safely be conjectured that Satan begins to plot his comeback.

  • God brings the garden of Eden into being. He creates man & woman within it.

a. Enter the serpent. (Here comes the ‘comeback’!)

b. This serpent beguiles & seduces Eve. (Note: Assuming this was an actual physical sexual seduction, the DNA was here corrupted. The intended embryons27-th (2)ic process that would have transpired between Eve, the *virgin & Adam, a son of God, was usurped. Eve’s firstborn, Cain, carried ‘bad blood’.)

c.  *I say ‘virgin’ because sexual activity between Eve & Adam is not mentioned in Genesis until after the Fall.

Question: Did the serpent/aka Satan/Lucifer somehow know about a future plan of God to bring HIS firstborn into the world through the human procreative process? Was this a pre-emptive attack, hopefully thwarting His purposes by tainting & transforming the bloodline?

(Even though God’s plan of redemption through our Savior was a direct response TO Satan’s seduction – perhaps Satan did not have full foreknowledge.)

  • Now a bloodline is tainted.
  • Eve bears another son, with Adam: Abel. That bloodline is not tainted with the serpent seed.
  • Time passes. Men multiply upon the earth. Two blood lines exist & compete

Question: Did Satan think, Hmmm…my chances of domination will increase if more ‘people’ on the earth have MY tainted blood..what can be done about that?

  • So  “…the sons of God {angels who left their first estate as did Lucifer, in a sense} came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them…” (Genesis 6:4)


Immediately following this verse in Scripture, we are told that God “…saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth…”  It was so bad, in fact, that “every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually”.  Every imagination…only evil…continually. “…the earth was filled with violence.” (Genesis 6:11) I have to consider the appearance of such pervasive, consuming iniquity on the earth to be related to a possible serpent seed bloodline, and its reaching of critical mass proportions finally accomplished by the couplings revealed above, in verse 4.


(At this point in time, God brings the Flood, wiping out all mankind except Noah, his three sons, and their wives. The slate was wiped clean. 

But it did not stay that way.

Next post, some thoughts on that…)

2 responses to “What Went Down in Eden…?

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